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Serious warnings are needed associated with 'pour on' epoxy resin systems for table and bar tops. Some vendors will call any clear epoxy as suitable for tables and bars. Not true. All epoxies will yellow in sunlight - some quicker than others. Use an epoxy that has low or slow yellowing (and generally don't use for outside tables).
You need a thin watery epoxy otherwise mixing and pouring will generate lots of bubbles. Also you want a thin epoxy as it will self level.
The bar needs to be very level and have a leak free edge all around (OPTION 1 - THICK POURS) so that the epoxy doesn't just drain out upon the floor. All surfaces need to be sealed so that objects, or even the surface, doesn't spit out bubbles. It is best to test your project with water first to find problems before using the expensive epoxy.
The math surprises people. Pours need to be about 1/4 inch thick. You can do multiple pours. One gallon of anything does 6 square feet at 1/4 inch thick. Good quality bar top epoxies sell for $60-$70 a gallon, so a poured on bar or table is $$$. A cheaper alternative (see Epoxy Guru homepage) is some brushed on epoxy and then a Marine Spar Varnish (not for sale in Calif) protective top coat - as seen on many boats. Visit the links below.
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Progressive Epoxy Polymers (epoxyproducts.com) is the only table top / bar top / penny floor epoxy source that offers as one of their multiple epoxy options (option #3), a multi coat, non blushing, epoxy with bubble breakers and extended work times (for better self leveling and larger projects). Consider Basic No Blush Epoxy with Slow Summer Curing agent. they can offer these kinds of options because they are an epoxy company and not a marketing firm selling some generic bulk product through a slick web site. Watch their company video.
OPTION 1 -- Thick pour epoxy - use for pours over 1/4 inch and with a leak-proof edge all around the project. The most professional, commercial grade bar top and table top system/method available --- GOTO OPTION 1 - Bio Clear 810 - the most non yellowing epoxy available. Most professional method/results - Most expensive.
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OPTION 2--- special craft projects use a thicker marine type epoxy (which has more bubbles) - examples at Maine Coast Creations web site. - Often used to fill cracks and knot holes in wood bar slabs etc. use BASIC NO BLUSH EPOXY - buy at epoxyusa.com USE TO FILL KNOT HOLES ETC. IN SLABS OF WOOD/BAR TOPS
OPTION 3 -- Brush on a solvent thinned epoxy epoxy sealer and primer (use ESP 155) , then top coat with several coats of INDIA SPAR VARNISH. Note; these two products cannot be sold in California. - Least expensive and best for outdoors. Can polish and wax spar varnish to a mirror finish. GOTO OPTION 4
BAR TOP EPOXY PRICING: Assume an epoxy cost of $75 a gallon. A poured 1/4 inch thick layer of epoxy using that one gallon will cover 6 square feet and cost about $12.50 per square foot. Many online vendors love to 'fudge' this $$$ mathematical reality. Now consider olling on THREE coats of a one gallon mix of a medium thick, slow setting, epoxy with bubble breakers. This will cover about 35-40 square feet and cost about $2.00 - $2.25 per square foot. We give you both options (and other thicker or thinner options too) and will explain the pros and cons of each option. The 'other guys' only offer you the much more expensive option and hope you never consider the less costly option. And that doesn't even address the issue of the quality of the epoxy being sold. Call : 603 - 435 7199 |
Epoxy Crazing Notice/Warning |
There are two types of Marine Epoxy Vendors: 1) discount, bulk, REPACKAGERS who simple buy drums of raw resin and raw curing agent(s) from the big chemical companies and fill plastic jugs for resale; 2) FORMULATORS take the raw epoxy chemicals add to them to enhance and improve the raw "moonshine" into a "fine whiskey". Learn more repackagers/formulators. Our Basic No Blush (tm) is a formulated non blushing epoxy by Progressive Epoxy Polymers, Inc. (homepage). that includes additions for reduced brittleness and exclusive (only we have it) bubble breakers for a more perfect looking finish. Basic No Blush is the least expensive of the formulated epoxies and considered the best marine epoxy by many ex-users of the other formulated epoxies. REPACKAGED EPOXY WARNING: Over the years I have seen and had reports of non-formulated, raw resin/cure epoxies (which are extremely hard and brittle) becoming crazed with millions of cracks (like shattered safety glass) in outdoor settings that experience big changes in temperature. Formulated epoxies all seem to be 'fixed' to allow for this expansion and contraction without cracking by making them less brittle and better able to handle internal stresses. |
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"I've been using the Basic No Blush epoxy on all my own stuff, and using up all the West epoxy on most customers boats. When the West is finally gone I'll only be using your epoxies. Good stuff. I'm rebuilding an old Rybovich so a big order in the future..." Patrick (comment with on-line order 9/4/07) ---- Order No Blush online |
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